An Insider's View of
the Bonn Meeting
A Conversation
with Ms. Sima Wali
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Ms. Sima Wali was
one of the members of the Rome delegation to the UN
sponsored Bonn meeting, that resulted in the formation of
the Afghan Interim Authority. Ms. Wali is president of
Refwid and a member of the Academic Board of the
Institute for Afghan Studies.
She was interviewed by
Dr. G. Rauf
Roashan, also a member of the Academic Board of the
IAS
and the author of the Country Corner weekly column.
IAS:
The meeting had an emergency nature as it was convened under
pressure by the United Nations and the United States, both of
which wanted a solution to be expeditiously decided upon by a
group of Afghan personalities. Do you think, representation in
the meeting reflected all sectors of the Afghan society? Could
one call it a truly representative gathering?
Ms. Wali:
Given the emergency nature of the meeting I thought the UN did
a remarkable job. However, were it not for the emergency
nature, I think there could have been an equitable
representation with regards to ethnicity and gender.
IAS:
One of the political strategies in meetings and
conferences is that individuals or groups try to participate
in them while they benefit from a position of strength. Under
the conditions, the Northern Alliance carried the most weight.
Do you think still some semblance of balance could be
maintained?
Ms. Wali:
We were told the Northern Alliance
representation was larger in part because it had to reflect
the various factions and its leadership. This was a matter of
concern to the Rome group which was voiced to the UN.
IAS:
It was widely speculated and even clearly
mentioned by Mr. Seerat, prior to the meeting that one of the
objectives of the Loya Jirga and the preceding meeting to it
namely the Bonn meeting was to decide on agreeing to the
Former King Mohammad Zahir Shah to head the Interim Authority.
His Majesty, however, decided to be represented by a
delegation only and apparently did not want the job at this
juncture. How was this decision by the former King taken by
the meeting?
Ms. Wali:
There was much discussion on this issue. His
Majesty's delegates had to repeatedly remind the other
participants that His Majesty had no intention of restoring
the monarchy and that he has no intention of returning to
Afghanistan as a monarch. His only wish is to serve his
country to bring peace and democracy through the Loya Jirga
process.
IAS:
The meeting in general and Lakhdar Brahimi in particular
worked hard and into the wee hours of the morning to usher a
conclusion that was expected of the meeting. Repeatedly the
media mentioned that the UN and the international community
used the possible aid into reconstruction of Afghanistan as
motivation for the conclusion. Was this really the case? The
meeting also gave rise to apparent disparity between the
political stands of the younger leadership of the Northern
Alliance versus the leader of the Jamiat Islami Party, namely
Professor Rabbani. Was this obvious to the members and was it
considered a positive change?
Ms. Wali:
It was reported that one of the " pull" factors that
influenced various participants to reach an agreement was the
promise of reconstruction monies. What was evident in the
discourses, however, was the constant reminder from all
representative bodies and Mr. Brahimi that the world was
watching and witnessing this momentous event. "This was a
golden opportunity" accorded to Afghanistan and "the eyes of
the world was upon us" were frequent remarks coming from Mr.
Brahimi [and] echoed by all delegates.
IAS:
For the first time in many years a few women participated in a
meeting that was entrusted with deciding on the fate of the
country. In your own mind, was that a welcome move or an
insufficient measure to represent women's interests?
Ms. Wali:
It was a welcome move to include women in the initial
discussion. Holding a parallel civil society meeting held in
Bon was also a welcome move. However, gender ratios were
obviously not balanced. It is my hope that it will be
rectified in the future.
IAS:
A relatively less known younger leader who was away in
Afghanistan was chosen by the meeting to head the interim
authority. Evidently he was favored by the United States and
that issue as you may agree or disagree carries weight with
the United Nations. Heading an interim authority is one of the
most difficult jobs and responsibilities anyone could have.
The task is much greater than heading transitional governments
or even regular government apparatuses. The time period of six
months also seems to be extremely short for accomplishing all
the meeting wants from the interim administration. Were these
questions discussed by the meeting and how could the meeting's
decision be justified?
Ms. Wali:
I have full confidence in the abilities of Mr. Karzai. It was
the Northern Alliance that proposed that a Pushtun should head
the Interim Authority. The timeframe of six months is short
and the task daunting. There were no oppositions to Mr.
Karzai's Chairmanship.
IAS:
One report during the meeting suggested that Haji Qadeer left
the meeting in protest over the under-representation of the
Pashtuns in it. Would you kindly expound on this sensitive
issue of ethnical representation and whether the meeting
worked on bringing about a balance.
Ms. Wali:
I heard the same report. However, Haji Qadeer did return to
resume his role as a delegate.
IAS:
17 of the 29 cabinet positions were assigned to the Northern
Alliance. Among these are the most important portfolios of
Women's Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Defense and Interior. Does
this not give more power to the Alliance and somewhat limit
the decisions to favor that Alliance. Let me give one example.
The Ministry of Defense of the Interim Authority has agreed to
finance programs of the newly revived Afghan TV. It shows the
TV needs money and that the Defense Ministry has enough funds.
But most importantly, the Defense Ministry has agreed to do
this only if the TV runs programs showing activities of the
Northern Alliance during the past few years. Would you
consider this as an unnecessary edge provided for one of the
factions only because their share in the government is a
lion's share?
Ms. Wali:
The Northern Alliance were appropriated with more cabinet
positions. Perhaps this was a recognition that the Northern
Alliance was the main military resistance in the war against
terrorism.
IAS:
During the meeting representatives of Dostum's party were
first banned and later admitted into the conference. Did the
meeting have reasons for these actions and whether these
reasons were discussed in the plenary.
Ms. Wali:
I do not know the particulars of this issue. I was not aware
that anyone was expressly banned from the meeting.
IAS:
Some lobbying is part of any such conference. Were their
national and international lobbyists and what were they
lobbying?
Ms. Wali:
The meeting of the international lobbyists were separate from
the "Afghans only" discussions. The way in which the
discussions were held was that the delegates met in a separate
part of the building. There were no international observers
present during the "Afghans only" negotiations. The protocol
of the meeting was that we would meet separately in our
respective delegations and would then convene in a joint
session with the UN (Brahimi and his aides). The urgency of
reaching an agreement and the pressure from all sides gave
some delegates an urgent sense to compromise.
IAS:
What was the role of international observers? Could you please
elaborate on some of the important roles that were played by
some of these observers.
Ms. Wali:
The role of the international community representatives were
to support the UN efforts.
IAS is thankful to Ms. Wali
for sharing some of her views on this fateful meeting in the
life of Afghanistan and is proud that one of its own members,
an Afghan woman, was part of this historic meeting. Per Ms.
Wali's request, we would like to remind our readers that the
observations expressed above are solely those of Ms. Wali and
should not necessarily be attributed to the Rome process and
their respective delegation. |